It seriously depends on what your consider long range effectiveness, but using 6 mm bullet with a measly BC sounds like a waste. Lastly, better available steel for barrels busts the myth of barrel erosion from a mechanical perspective. If you think the .243WSSM is hard to feed give it to DArcy Echols he will make it feed it is all geometry and math.He used to purposely get a table at the CADA show in Denver next to Don Allen whos rifles were pretty but did not feed worth a _______. What youre describing almost sounds like a Garand or M1A chambered for a greater variety of cartridges. Today, youll find the versatile 243 Win with a bullet in one of two weight classes: 55-85 grains, which is suitable for rodents up to coyote, and 90-115 grains, like 100 grain Remington Core-Lokt 243 ammo. Modern propellants are capable of getting burn rates and pressures at lower temperatures. In summary, the .243 WSSM rounds shoot faster and flatter than a .300 with diminished recoil compared to the .308. VLD ammunition is Bergers Very Low Drag bullet. All calculations performed by JBM Trajectory Calculation Page (http://www.mega.nu:8080/traj.html), and assume 55 degrees Fahrenheit at 1,000 of altitude SBST ammunition is Winchesters Supreme Ballistic Silvertip. Savage Arms 57177 Axis II XP .243 22" 3-9x40 MATTE/FDE Synthetic Ergo STK. Trophy Grade Long Range; Trophy Grade Safari; . It has so many negative against it and a reputation that was purely conjured up by peoples last lusting for a military rifle that was wood and steel, then many threw off the wood! . I guess that is how progress is made. This entire article is about trying to get more horsepower out of an AR-15. Those dont have great BCs. Over the last several years, long-range varmint shooting has become more and more popular. I have the 117s but havent gotten a good load out of my Match-barrelled Savage Striker pistol 243 WSSMbut got a 243 WSSM AR pistol idea in the works for intermediate range coyoteswell see. Stay with me here . a factory 55gr bullet a screaming 4,050+ fps muzzle velocity with a mid to long range effectiveness like never before.. Long Guns - $39.99; Handguns - $24.99 (Priority Mail), $65 . It easily can bring down a Bull Elk at 350yds. One interesting thing is that the .243 WSSM load data I've seen keeps it limited to 2.260", even though SAAMI appears to be 2.360"..25 WSSM load data shows a lot of 2.350" COLs. That' more than enough to turn a miss into a hit. This basic concept resulted in muzzle velocities of approximately 4,000 fps with the 223 WSSM with some loadings and over 4,000 fps with the 55 gr Ballistic Tip in the 243 WSSM loads. Thus 243 WSSM rifles can be lighter, have stiffer actions and have faster actions to cycle. See target groups and more information on this 105 A-Max load. It will last a long time. is a classic Army brat. You real might want to consider the custom barrel as mentioned. I have a model 70 243 wssm super shadow(plain bottom of the line model 70) I use sierra 55gr and 85gr loads. . The polymer tip resists deformation, maximizes long-range performance and promotes expansion. Find a full selection of 243 winchester rifles from top rifle manufacturers at the best prices. I asked a connection I know, who announced he would be hanging with Winchester at the Live Fire Day before SHOT Show 2016, if he could PLEASE ask Winchester what were the chances of getting some .243 WSSM in production nothing, crickets. Where would I look for one at? The low velocity also makes this cartridge prone to wind effects. The .220 Swift, .22-250 and then.22-250 AI provided shooters with the first rifles that could credibly run muzzle velocities over 4,000 fps. It uses a .300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) case shortened and necked down to accept a .243in/6mm diameter bullet, and is a high velocity round based on ballistics design philosophies that are intended to produce a high level of efficiency. Berger VLD Hunting: 46 Gr. The M14 and FAL magazines should be able to accept the long cartridge, resulting in minimal recoil. When a loaded AR-15 magazine is inserted and seated in the action, the cartridge alignment is such that it is more directly in line with the chamber and the feed ramps support the rest of the chambering. Something with a case volume closer to the BR series of cases or even a .284 case thats been shortened to about 1.5 would give the necessary powder capacity. You cant get the OAL of a .243 Win up through the AR-15 magazine well. Ive had mausers and springfields and others. However, its performance deteriorates at longer ranges as it decelerates with reduced wounding potential. So essentially an ar10 in 6.5 creedmoor or 7mm-08? I will keep my 243wssm but I am now building a 243 AI to shoot the heavier bullets. Now this difference isnt nearly as significant to shooting a deer at 300 yards as it is to hitting a gong at 1000 yards. A ATH I say pick the purpose, then pick the platform, then pick the bullet, and then pick the speed. Pushing the shoulder back would seriously decrease the case capacity, and youd end up with something that launches at a very modest velocity for a lot of effort. $415 12. Winchester had a crafty, two-pronged strategy for the .243 Win., and it worked. . As importantly, am I hoping to get some attention from ammunition manufacturers on the .243 WSSM, which was truly ahead of its time. Mechanically speaking,what really torpedoed the chances of the .243 WSSM being well embraced, was how it interfaced with Bolt Action platforms. . Just checking Hornadys ballistics table their 150gr. Firstly, lets compare its trajectory with that of the other sniper cartridges. The M14s and M1As that were made with TRW parts are high quality guns, built from forged, heat-treated steel and walnut, unlike the stamped sheet metal of their peers of the era. Im a fan of the 7mm BR. I wont be change the barrel myself, but I have a buddy thats a excellent gunsmith thats gonna do it for me. .243 bullet is deflected 2 inches less in a 10 mph right angle breeze at 300 yards. The tactical combination of the flat trajectory, low recoil, and ability to feed through AR rifles stands out as potential solutions. 3570. So theres no way the WSSM gets to be any less of a barrel burner, IMO. Even then it seems more practical to just buy an AR10. 243 Win Super Short Magnum (WSSM) Load Data - (Archived) 243 Win Super Short Magnum (WSSM) Load Data. I hate people who see something new, something their grand-pappy didnt teach them on, and dismiss it out of hand as unnecessary. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Another caliber bullet? Improved technology in propellants and the physics behind shorter, wider casings help boost performance. I am pretty positive that far exceeds what a normal hunter or recreational shooter would put thru their barrel in a life time (in this caliber). 6.5 Grendel made a good fist of trying to balance things. Winchester Super Short Magnum. Inc. in CO andDedicated Technologyin MN. With an average of around one enemy death per 250,000 rounds fired in the modern Global War on Terror, a sniper who only fires on average around 1.3 rounds per kill stands out as a terribly lethal soldier. This is why Im recommending that people play with ballistics tables or an exterior ballistics program. But Ive seen that tiny round zip through everything but the vitals too many times to recommend it for a new shooter whos shot placement is less than perfect. I always felt it was overbuilt. Anyways, I know some people run these rifles, I think. One must take barrel twist into account depending on the type of 243 Win cartridge that is fired. There are dozens of amazing scope brands in the world, but who is the best?! So if youre looking for a rifle that can shoot accurately at long ranges without scaring away your prey, then this might be the perfect rifle for you! (originally the .244 Rem. Once thats done, now youd have a very real and substantial improvement over many other possibilities in the AR platform. Capabilities of 90gr and especially 105gr low-drag bullets are hidden bonus of 6 mm. Model : HP22A. It doesnt do anything that couldnt be had from other weapons for less and have good ammo availability. Considered the entry level deer hunting cartridge in Great Britain, where the Deer Act of 1963 necessitates a caliber of no less than .240 and muzzle energy of no less than 1,700 ft lbs. Repeating Arms Company ( Winchester Inc ). The Long Range Hunter is available in .300 WSM with an adjustable brake - it's enough gun. So does Ables. The .243 WSSM only gives 50-150fps over a normal .243 Winchester (depending on projectile weight). I realize it has very little recoil, and thats why so many new shooters buy it. SST Superformance (BC .415) zeroed in at 200 yards drops 6.8 @ 300 vs. 7.6 for the 165gr. If you don't get the accuracy you want, try a different bullet. 308 Win ammo offers a wider frontal area, improved resistance to wind drift, and greater energy over longer distances. . After youve done that, compute the rifling twist necessary to stabilize the bullet, then (and only then) start figuring out how your going to launch it. There is a lot to cover when it comes to carrying a firearm for self-defense. Nonetheless, I really hope there are some good tidbits in here that grab peoples interest. This lets the snipers shoot longer ranges with better reliability and consistency than the .308. You may have heard that one of the reasons the .243 WSSM withered on the vine was that it burned up barrels too fast. They had a substantial enough stock that when you put a 1907 sling on them, and then reefed down on that sling, the rifle held up and didnt go out of zero, or worse, break the stock. First, the design of the magazine provides uniform tension on the cartridge from three sides: from the bottom, and from feed lips on each side. However, the .243 WSSM does not look quite so bad -- more middle of the pack. It is capable of accurate shooting at long range, and is commonly used in long-range competitions. Get one with the removable pilot. I have no idea why. I don't think you can compare the WSSM's to the .223/5.56 in terms of barrel life. It may not display this or other websites correctly. This rifle cuts bullet holes at 100yds. The purpose of an autoloading rifle is to throw multiple shots down range quickly so if you are not going to be using rapid fire then I dont why you would want to use the AR Platform. If only one can be agreed upon by all manufacturers. Unsubscribe at any time. Pick the bullet first. The incredibly steep shoulders of the case from neck to fat magnum body meant it had a really hard time feeding in a bolt action platform. Heres your answer Robert, people own .243 bolt guns. By no means an obscure cartridge, many manufacturers produce the 243 Win with every conceivable bullet type. The top end of the .243 wssm in 55 grain is over 4,000 feet/second..there is the problem..and the reason why hunters love this round..someone somewhere need to start making it again. . Ballistics and Drop for the .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum (WSSM) Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 1.67" Width: 0.544" Average FPS: 3198 Average Energy: 2228 Average Gr: 86 Recoil: 1.37 Power Rank: 2.55 of 20 The .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum (.243 WSSM) was designed in 2003 by Browning and Winchester. There is no factory loaded 243 WSSM round with a high BC target type bullet. Sorry, I cannot drum up enough interest to read all the technical details, but with so many standard calibers around, .223/.308/.300 Blackout, etc., immediately available off the shelf and reasonably priced, what is so impressive about this particular round? It should be fed by a detachable or fixed magazine of at least 10 rounds, have ballistics with a bullet that remains supersonic out to at least 880 yards, is rechargeable with stripper clips (if necessary) and have a recoil impulse under 15 ft-lbs. Join 212,000 avid gun enthusiasts and claim your print-at-home shooting drills. and they work just fine. This is just like the 6.8 SPC, the .300 AAC, the 6.5 Grendel, you name it. MDT Long Range MOA Picatinny Scope Rails for Ruger 10/22Ruger 1022 Scope Mounts in 20 . core lokt @ .314 (150gr) or W;nchester power point @ .294 its enough to make a huge difference downrange. Of the three loads to be offered in the .243 WSSM, only one, the 55-grain Ballistic Silvertip in the Supreme line, will be a varmint load; the other two are both game loads consisting of a Supreme 95-grain BS and a Super-X 100-grain Power Point. Blairsville, Ga. Mar 16, 2009 #1 I currently do alot of varmint and coyote hunting at long ranges. A lubalox, black oxide coating is also used to reduce barrel fouling and engraving forces. Which aint always a bad thing. Ive never used my .243 WSSMs for that purpose but I only load 100gr Sierra Game King The overwhelming complaint expressed about this round was how hard it fed or failed to feed. I have since long throated the chamber to allow for David Tubb 115g projectiles to be seated forward (OAL 2.400) this leaves only the boattail in the boiler room so 45g of ADI 2213SC for 3050 fps. The following is the story of our Oregon Elk Hunt with an AR15 in .243 WSSM - The Video is Included Below On this hunt, I was using my Verwoest Precision Automatic 243WSSM AR15 (a rifle I built) with Winchester factory loaded 95gr XP3 ammunition. A look at 243 Ballistics with information for some of the most popular 243 Winchester ammo loads available in the United States. browning a.bolt 243 wssm, gunsmithing needed HELP. A comparison of the 243 WSSM with 243 Winchester (second from left) and with 22-250 and 223 Remington (far right). In 2003, Winchester introduced the .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum and this article compares its ballistic performance against that of the existing .223, .308 and .300 cartridges. Good if you have money too burn buying the rig and 60 $ boxes of shells or the set up for reloading! The .243 WSSM is available in factory and custom bolt action rifles but the highlight of this caliber/cartridge combination is the Olympic Arms offering complete AR-15s and uppers in this caliber and being able to feed all Winchesters factory ammunition like the 95-grain SBST (eight rounds of .243 WSSM fit in a 20rd .223 magazine). Ive got AR15 pattern rifles in 5.56, 6.5Grendel, 6.8SPC, .338Spectre, .and 458SOCOM. OK, here we have a new Gotta-have-it cartridge that, on paper, appears to the the Hot New Lick[tm]. The 243 WSSM was first introduced in 2003. From $25.81 . Bergers 115-grain Very Low Drag boat tail hollow point bullet resolves the ability to buck wind when compared with the .300. Throw in an 18 barrel as opposed to a 16 and youll probably get that 50fps back. Giving it potential to cover 1800 yds before the transonic zone. I have a collection of new SS barrels in a variety of contours/calibers/twists all manufactured by a variety of US marquee barrel makers. The 243 Winchester Super Short Magnum or 243 WSSM is a rifle cartridge introduced in 2003. Although based on the 308 Win, the 243 Win differs substantially from it. I hear nothing but great things about those production rifles. But my question is about install a varmint barrel. I currently do alot of varmint and coyote hunting at long ranges. In Stock. Not a fan of the .243. The trigger on the Garand or M1A could be made very nice by a competent gunsmith. I never experienced anything but pleasure with this rifle please bring back the ammo! I.E. (www.hillbillybrass.com ). 5.56? The .223 Rem. cells marked in yellow are not dangerous but indicate possible (but not . No joke. The walker is moving at 4mph at full value. Internet "Experts" are a dime a dozen and will not be of any help if, and when, any problems should appear. I will second the opinion that you should discuss this with your gunsmith. The combination of the .243 WSSM / 115-grain Very Low Drag is worthy of an in-depth analysis because the results show it to be more a far more effective option than the 6.8mm thats currently being used by the military. It is popular for hunting deer, pronghorn, and coyote, as well as varmint and small game. 243 wssm brass For Sale I don't know why this is what it is S shortgrass Well-Known Member LRH Supporter Joined Mar 31, 2010 Messages 3,581 Location Weatherford, Oklahoma Jan 1, 2015 #5 I think I'd plan on buying the reamer, too. When it comes to reloading I get almost superstitious of anything different that might alter my accuracy. The .458 and .50 Beowulf have a nice short range thump, and the 6.5 Grendel is a respectable long range round, particularly out of an 18, 20 or 24 stainless barrel. JavaScript is disabled. $1259 22. The .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum, or .243 WSSM, is a .243in caliber sporting rifle cartridge introduced in 2003. Why? LR Guru Formerly '300NM_guru' LRH Supporter. All can be used to great effect, and are (were) in military and spec ops supply chains. 969 - 6.5-243 WSSM 1102 - 22-250 1143 - .243 WSSM 1165 - 0.243 1230 - .220 Swift 1273 - 25-06 1329 - 300 Weatherby 1358 - 223 WSSM 1499 - 264 WM 1620 - 257 Weatherby 1746 - 30-378 So yes the .223 WSSM is getting up there into legendary 264 WM barrel burning country. I would easily venture there are WAY more AR-15s sitting around than there are AR-10s on the market, that in just a few moments and by popping out two take down pins that AR-15 can now be converted with an upper to a hunting rifle just that easy. The .308 Winchester is the most popular sniper cartridge and was used as the standard round for western service rifles for more than four decades due to its exceptional accuracy and slight blast and recoil. It shares the same diameter bullet and shoulder angle as the 222 Remington Magnum but differs from it in that it has a shorter neck and longer overall length. But comparing apples to apples like a 150gr. Let your fellow shooters know share this article using the Facebook, Twitter and other social media icons below. Then figure out how to launch it. Sounds fun in an ar15. It features low recoil and muzzle blast, making it an excellent choice for those just starting out with shooting at long distances. for an excellent article on why it is a premiere sniper round. The issue is actually more about the length of the bolt action than the round itself. The magazine and bolt interface in the AR-15 is simple. I took it home cleaned/lubed her up and tomarrow will be range time. If you trust him enough to build your rifle, then trust him enough to value his opinion. 55 Grain; 70 Grain; 80 Grain; 85 - 90 Grain; 95 - 100 Grain; NOSLER. While long range shooters and hunters were, and are, focused on traditional (bolt action) feed issues, the mechanical performance failings of the .243 WSSM are simply solved by introducing it into a modern sporting action. Instead, they just hoped to retro fit it into existing platforms. I am sure arguments can be made against this next statement, but the introduction in 2003 of the .243 WSSM (Winchester Supper Short Magnum) gave the round about a 10% boost in key performance areas of velocity, accuracy and effective Range. [8] See also [ edit] List of rifle cartridges 240 Weatherby Magnum. 6mm Creedmoor. Trouble is, the OAL on a 105gr pill on a 645 is too long for the ARs magazine and bolt cycling. While this cartridge is set to stay in service indefinitely, it too comes with notable weaknesses. Both significantly surpass the performances of the .223, .308., and .300 cartridges, with one exception where the .300 bucks wind better than the 95gr SBST. MidwayUSA currently has loaded 243 WSSM ammo. Beretta 3032 Tomcat [Review]: A Worthy Self-Defense Pistol? All the 243 WSSM factory rounds are unsuitable for long range target popping. With a low initial velocity, it has the steepest exterior ballistic arc. The 243 WSSM is .mw-parser-output .frac{white-space:nowrap}.mw-parser-output .frac .num,.mw-parser-output .frac .den{font-size:80%;line-height:0;vertical-align:super}.mw-parser-output .frac .den{vertical-align:sub}.mw-parser-output .sr-only{border:0;clip:rect(0,0,0,0);height:1px;margin:-1px;overflow:hidden;padding:0;position:absolute;width:1px}38in (9.5mm) shorter than the 243 Win, giving the 243 WSSM the ability to fit in a super-short action rifle. The .243 WSSM, .240 Weatherby Magnum, .25 WSSM, .25-06 Remington, and .257 Weatherby Magnum can achieve even higher velocities with . A lot of modern technology helped it get its primary and supporting characteristics. Also, if you read the article, youd know that .243 WSSM is a very high performance, high energy, high velocity long-range precision and hunting cartridge that takes a umber of good features from other calibers and combines them in a way that no other cartridge does. If I wanted to link to an external site, I would have done so. The .243 WSSM is also a popular long-range shooting cartridge. 6mm XC. Namely, feed and function related issues. I think that if you decide to run a ton of ammo downrange in a short time, then yes, it would be a barrel burner. Gman Gold $$ Contributor If you reload, Hornady and Winchester brass are readily available. [1] The percentage gain in performance over the older .243 Winchester is around 10% or less. Talk about some wear and tear. Hornady A-Max Hand Load: 95 Gr. The .243 WSSM is one of the most popular hunting cartridges in North America. To begin with, there are statements in this article that are purely my own, and my opinions are obvious and blatant. Not exactly new. Like its father, the .243 Winchester is an efficient cartridge, and will give good velocities without being too hard on barrels. The product is only manufactured periodically, often at inconsistent intervals. . Its probably the people who buy the guns chambered in this caliber as their first deer rifle, not the caliber itself, as in its high weight/high BC form the 6mm pill is a ballistic gem. Here's an interesting article I read that compares the .243 chambering and its pros/cons with the other common service rifle calibers including .223, .308, and .300 Win mag. Remember my rants about how there are other rifles than the AR-15, folks? This is where I could re-post those rants, but I wont, because I dont like repeating myself. Winchester brought us .243 Winchester as a caliber for varmint hunting and target shooting. Savage Arms 57367 Axis II 243 Win 4+1 22", Matte Black Barrel/Rec, Synthetic Stock. The design and function of the AR-15 platform perfectly offers the mechanical solution which the .243 WSSM lacked in a bolt action. Fitch johnnyk Well-Known Member Joined Dec 24, 2001 Messages 2,441 Location Potters Hill, NC Feb 5, 2010 #3 I agree with Fitch. How long will a .243 last? A slower barrel twist of 1:10 is generally adequate to stabilize bullets weighing up to 100 grains, while the accuracy of heavier, higher ballistic coefficient bullets is improved by a 1:7 or 1:8 twist. A 6.5 BRX with a little added body taper might do some neat work too. Wind values are for a 10mph cross wind at full value. In all honesty, I have to say that my fathers bolt action Winchester (never a single feeding issue) has to be my favorite rifle to shoot of them all. There is no one out there who is going to tell me that the .243 WSSM isnt over-bored. Olympic Arms. 257 Roberts Ackley Improved. They are few in number, but they are there. Too many modern/younger shooters dont know crap about using a sling when shooting a rifle. My father in law has a bolt Browning in .243 wssm. I get excellent groups with the rifle. I think it really is aMust Have, all around, screaming fast AR-15 Caliber. . fill rate of the cartridge. As a caliber, the 6mm has the least number of commercial members. Ps the 115g is tail happy for 300yd out of my 1:10 barrel but once the projectile goes to sleep it still bucks the wind and is a tack driver. I understand they chrome lined the barrels of the first bolt action rifles put out but I never read about barrel erosion issues from any consumer. Out of Stock. Ok so the holdover is like 61 meters the scope would probably aim at the barrel but seriously this cartridge can knock on .240 Weatherby Magnum territory. Can be supersonic out to 1500 yards and has lots of other bullet selections, recoil a little less than 308. Popular among metallic silhouette and long range shooters for its low recoil and high accuracy. Still, this round shines for its ability to efficiently take down the game at further distances, especially when coupled with the best scope for .243. For long-range varminting, sending light bullets at ultra-high velocities, I just think the 6mm Rem has better case design than a .243 Win. After serving in the military, Beau got himself even more guns. No spam. I just need to know where and what to look for. But they are good long range cartridges for hunting the medium size species of big game such as deer, sheep, goats, and most antelope species. The G3, FAL, etc werent even 2MOA rifles. deer hunting with a bolt action rifle inside of 300 yards and a $1,000 budget. This limits the long-range performance of the cartridge in some rifles, but its still quite popular with shooters looking for a flat shooting round with good accuracy potential from an AR platform rifle. Plan on another $140-$160. So yea, if you really just HAVE to have a .243 in an A-R 15 platform I guess that works, but from a commercial standpoint I dont see the future in this round. Savage 19136 12 Long Range Precision Bolt 243 Win 26" 4+1 Black. Most drop at the shot. Though initially developed as a match cartridge, the .243 Winchester has found its place in hunters hearts across the U.S. Its ability to make fast, accurate shots at long-range appeals to both target shooters and hunters alike. DPMS LR-308 [Review]: The AR, Back to Basics. .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum (WSSM) History The first ever short but wide cased 6mm cartridge to be developed was the 6mm Benchrest Remington released in 1962. A G-1 of .276? If you ever shoot this round, you will fall in love with it. I have since found a tip for what seems like a good source for brass if you are a reloader I am not. Trouble is theres not as much there for your money as youd like. now stick that into your ballistic calculator .At 2000yd the projectile is akin to a .22LR standard. One of the intimidating aspects of carrying is the possible legal ramifications you will face if you ever have to use your weapon. 300 BLK? Olympic Arms produced their first .243 WSSM production rifle in 2004 and included production models in their 2005 catalog. Better powders have reduced heat and reduced heat equals lower erosion potential in the throats of the barrels. Show Results Show Results. 95%. IMO, if you want to come up with a successful round for a rifle today, you start by choosing your bullet. Based on a necked down 308 Win case, the 243 Win offers lighter bullets, higher muzzle velocities, and less muzzle energy than its predecessor. 243 Winchester Super Short Mag (WSSM) in 87 Grain Soft Point- Hard to find, but we have you covered!! In a 7.6251 battle rifle, it is more accurate than its peers. Winchester thought of the .243 Win. Get gun deals, hand's on reviews, educational content and updates on law changes daily! I dont believe Ive ever heard that before. I would imagine that would tilt the market in its favor pretty quick. Ive moved on to a cowboy assault rifle in the venerable .30-30. The 95-grain SBST is however affected more by wind than the .300. For what I need a center fire rifle for, hunting at ranges usually less than 300 yards, Ill just stick with my .243 bolt gun. V-max .I have checked into gettig it upgraded so I can shoot the Berger 105 or 115 bullets which requires a 1in 8 twist barrel. Especially in comments. Sunday at 12:15 PM #1 152- 3 bags of new 243 wssm winchester brass - $40 a bag 39- once fired brass- $30 or obo 243wssm dies w/ shell holder, shoulder bump insert, and modified case . An obscure (all things relative) boutique cartridge, that isnt, you know, available. What do you think about the idea of the .243 WSSM (or the .243 family generally) as an AR chambering used for long-range target shooting, hunting, and sniper work? Once you have a correctly seasoned barrel and it is on your hunting or mission specific rifle dont rapid fire it and allow it to get excessively over heated. The round was introduced in 2003. 25-06 Remington. Everyone knows the 5.56 is a squirrel round, and they all want to come up with the Magic Solution. . I have a stock of brass I may never get through primo projectiles and a rifle that gives me allot of Joy to tinker with. Doesnt Magpul now ship decently priced mags for only one of those variants? I consider the M16/AR-15 platform to be an embarrassment for using a sling in a proper manner unless you outfit the AR with aftermarket parts to put together a forearm on which you can actually reef down on the sling. This cartridge is usually used for small game such as varminting, and used for animals as large as deer. 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